Is Elizabeth Holmes a sociopath?

I've heard "narcissist" thrown around, but to me (armchair psychologist) she seems rather sociopathic.

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by Anonymousreply 28September 7, 2019 6:23 PM

Unless she’s related to John Holmes I don’t give a shit about this cunt.

by Anonymousreply 1March 20, 2019 10:09 AM

Yes she's definitely a sociopath. She's the proverbial textbook case who checks off every mark.

by Anonymousreply 2March 20, 2019 10:23 AM

I just started reading the book, and I read a part today where Holmes, when seriously challenged, flipped a 180 and practically become another person to manipulate people. Normally, she was cold and mean to employees and colleagues, but, when she was almost ousted as CEO, she suddenly switched tactics and became contrite and concilatory.

That kind of indicated sociopath to me.

by Anonymousreply 3March 20, 2019 10:32 AM

R4 Sanpaku eyes, otherwise known as crazy eyes

by Anonymousreply 5March 20, 2019 10:58 AM

She has no fear of going to prison, does she?

by Anonymousreply 6March 20, 2019 11:43 AM

Ummm as a perpetrator of a massive fraud, I’m gonna go with yes?

Not too bright are we OP

by Anonymousreply 7March 20, 2019 11:45 AM

r7, you sound like you're a delight at parties.

by Anonymousreply 8March 20, 2019 11:48 AM

I'd say yes. Zuckerberg as well, they have those crazy empty eyes. That rapey Brock Turner kid had them too.

by Anonymousreply 9March 20, 2019 11:53 AM

R6 No and that's why I lean towards sociopathy. Just a few weeks ago she was partying with her fiance at burning Man , all smiles. A mere narcissist wouldn't be so calm with the prospect of upcoming jail time.

by Anonymousreply 11March 20, 2019 12:11 PM

A huge clue is the emulation (down to the black turtleneck) of Steve Jobs. There is no 'there' there. She had to copy someone else because she is incapable of creating her own brand. It could've been anything! but no. Steve Jobs.

by Anonymousreply 12March 20, 2019 12:17 PM

R10 which is way worst than all her other crimes.

by Anonymousreply 14March 20, 2019 3:51 PM

Yeah she’s a narcissist and a sociopath but I feel like she’s something other too. Her willingness to keep lying in the face of of the Washington Post technology summit after the Washington Post ran the piece that help bring her down—that’s other level. She’s in deep denial or something.

by Anonymousreply 15March 20, 2019 3:55 PM

Lard, her brittle, crackly, bleached out, flyaway hair give me the heebie-jeebies. Looks like you could just grab a handful and snap it off at any length. Why so dry, anime eyes Liz?

by Anonymousreply 16March 20, 2019 6:58 PM

She's a con woman of the first order.

by Anonymousreply 18March 21, 2019 3:35 PM

"Michele Bachmann Eyes" just doesn't sound as good as "Bette Davis Eyes".

by Anonymousreply 19June 2, 2019 9:47 PM

Your use of the dated, hackish term sociopath already outed you as an amateur, OP

by Anonymousreply 20June 3, 2019 1:48 AM

Dunno, but her hair looks like dried cornsilk.

by Anonymousreply 22June 12, 2019 2:12 PM

I would have no qualms calling her a psychopath.

by Anonymousreply 23June 12, 2019 2:13 PM

Anybody who exposes such old guard GOP stalwarts such as Henry Kissenger and George Schultz as the idiots they really are is ok in my book.

by Anonymousreply 24June 12, 2019 2:32 PM

She's awkward. Sociopaths are supposed to be articulate. In addition, her scam isn't like a typical sociopath scam, which is aimed at acquiring and spending large sums in a small time frame and usually leaves the scammer full of debts rather quickly.

by Anonymousreply 25June 12, 2019 2:37 PM

Trial date set for August 2020.

Excerpts from an opinion piece posted at IPWATCHDOG this past week:

"The role of Silicon Valley investors and researchers will be more difficult to discern.”

"What is there to be learned from Holmes’ deception? Was she merely a greedy charlatan or did she believe that with sufficient time and capital the promise of Theranos’ diagnostics would be realized and no one would care if a few early liberties were taken? Or was Holmes simply caught up in the mythology of Silicon Valley’s power elite, unable (or unwilling) to extricate herself?

Holmes faces nine counts of mail fraud and two counts of conspiracy to commit wire fraud. Each count carries a maximum of 20 years in prison. It would be bad enough if the deception involved a new method of buying laundry detergent or finding a date for Saturday night—it is far worse when disease-critical medical information is involved."

"Was Holmes merely the consummate liar who understood the conditions necessary for deception?

Or, did those associated with Theranos, employees included, effectively invite disaster by believing that partial truths could become whole ones, and that eventually they may no longer be lies? It has yet to be determined how deeply they were in the dark.

People love to be part of something grand; to believe they are thinking differently or early supporters of the next big thing. Holmes was the perfect icon for their affection—a rather mysterious young woman, clad in black turtlenecks (like Jobs) who literally seemed to never blink, and projected a nerdy self-confidence. The seduction of promoting good science while generating an outsized return-on-investment can prove irresistible.

“The Inventor: Out for Blood in Silicon Valley” is an unsettling story, worthy of a novel or fiction film. In the end it will reveal as much about ourselves and current period of discovery as it does about Holmes and her motivation."

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by Anonymousreply 26September 6, 2019 11:01 PM

^^^ Starring Sarah Paulson, perhaps?

by Anonymousreply 27September 6, 2019 11:55 PM

This story has MADE John Carryrou, for the moment anyway.

He recently quit the WSJ in order to be a public speaking rock star (WSJ doesn't allow it's journalists to do paid speaking engagements).

I'm wondering if he'll be able to top himself in the coming years after this story fizzles out, and if he'll ho crawling back to WSJ.

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by Anonymousreply 28September 7, 2019 6:23 PM

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